Q: ok this door bar has the regular latch and a dead latch when you use the key to open from out side if thats the case the dead latch dont move so ie if we using a hes 9600 we cant open from out side so how can i disable the dead latch?
A: Ideally when using the HES 9600 or any strike for that matter you would want the dead locking tab to ride up over the lock case and not fall into the keeper space.
Having said that if you have already positioned the vertical height of the strike and or the exit device your only option may be to physically remove the dead locking tab by possibly cutting it off with a die grinder.
Of course I'm not officially recommending this but I can tell you that there have been people have been able to salvage a situation by doing so.
Q: TACO - Can you tell me the size of dogging key is used in the ED-501 ?
A: Dogging: 1/2" of a turn 7/32" hex key
Q: Rich can you identify a compatible lever handle that works with the existing panic bar hardware and key cylinder as seen here:
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or do I have to disassemble? All hardware was purchased from you years ago. Storeroom, always locked.
- Thanks, Terry
A: Sure thing - that exit is the TA ED-501-AL ED500 Series - Touch Bar Rim Exit Device - Aluminum that we have sold for decades and a compatible lever storeroom trim would be the GLOBAL DOOR TH1100-LHST Storeroom Lever Trim
as seen here:
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We have the order entered and tracking will be emailed to you - Rich
PS: that deadbolt is a big "no no". We are not the code police but that deadbolt violates emergency egress code.
Q: I'm not sure I need a panic lock set with two latches on it. I'm not sure what that second small latch is for?
A: I believe every exit device is built with a second latch functionality regardless of it being a rim device or a surface vertical rod device or a mortise device or a concealed vertical rod device. Different manufacturers will have a different design as to this second latch. You will certainly want that for security reasons but you will also find that in the design of a fire rated exit device it is part of the device and such a way that allows it to be approved in a fire event meaning the fire exit device was built in such a way with that deadlocking or smaller latch, and therefore tested, and therefore mandatory on fire doors.
That smaller of the two latches that you see sticking out of the edge of the head case is the dead-locking latch and the purpose of the dead locking-latch is to prevent the pullman latch, or the primary latch, from being depressed when the dead locking latch held in the depressed position and is demonstrated In the video as seen here:
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